{"id":5071,"date":"2025-06-27T11:13:02","date_gmt":"2025-06-27T03:13:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/staging.objectifs.com.sg\/?p=5071"},"modified":"2025-07-02T15:51:24","modified_gmt":"2025-07-02T07:51:24","slug":"in-conversation-nhan-tran-hannah-reyes-morales-juliana-tan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/in-conversation-nhan-tran-hannah-reyes-morales-juliana-tan\/","title":{"rendered":"In Conversation: Nhan Tran, Hannah Reyes Morales, Juliana Tan"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"5071\" class=\"elementor elementor-5071\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-51e07f6 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"51e07f6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element 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class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cef233e e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"cef233e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a612b29 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"a612b29\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">In Conversation: Nhan Tran, Hannah Reyes Morales, Juliana Tan<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ca1251 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4ca1251\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nhantran.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nh\u00e0n Tran<\/a>, a documentary photographer based in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, and the recipient of the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/category\/docuaward\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Objectifs Documentary Award<\/a>\u00a02021 (Emerging Category), presented her project in an exhibition at Objectifs in April 2022.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/between-the-silent-eyes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Between the Silent Eyes<\/i><\/a>\u00a0focuses on young Hmong mothers in H\u00e0 Giang province, Vietnam, who marry and have children before the legal marriage age of 18.\u00a0<\/p><p>The following recap summarises two talks Nh\u00e0n participated in: an online discussion, moderated by Chelsea Chua, Programme Director at Objectifs, with her mentor\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hannah.ph\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hannah Reyes Morales<\/a>, and an event in-person at Objectifs with photographer\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.julianatan.co\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Juliana Tan<\/a>. Their conversations have been paraphrased and shortened for brevity.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9bd3aea elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"9bd3aea\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4017db2 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4017db2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-677f8b5 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"677f8b5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-af8eed8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"af8eed8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>Nh\u00e0n<\/b>: I started researching\u00a0<i>Between the Silent Eyes<\/i>\u00a0in 2019. This long term project marks the turning point of pursuing my photographic practice in a more professional way, switching from a career in finance and banking.\u00a0<\/p><p>I first visited some provinces in northern Vietnam, including H\u00e0 Giang. It was a totally new experience for me. I stepped into another culture in my diverse home country. The Hmong people welcomed me, took me around and invited me to a traditional wedding, where I met an 18-year-old girl who was already married, but preparing for her official wedding. She and her husband had evaded the law to move in together before they reached the legal age to get married.<\/p><p>When I returned to my city, I further researched the Hmong to better understand their way of living. I read about early marriage, which is a part of their historical migration and traditional nomadic life. I wanted to understand another way of life in a very different culture in my home country.<\/p><p>In early 2020, I photographed these young mothers for the first time when I got to know M\u00e1y via one of my friends who started a homestay business in the centre of \u0110\u1ed3ng V\u0103n town. She was seeking short term work there before she would go off for her pregnancy. At 14, M\u00e1y illegally crossed the Chinese border and met a boy who became her husband. Now, she is a 19-year-old mother of two children.<\/p><p>I decided to prioritise my time to focus on M\u00e1y, because of our strong connection and relationship. She has a really strong character and knows what she wants, but she also knows she is disadvantaged as a minority person. Now, she is working hard in the city with hope for a better future for her children.\u00a0<\/p><p>What I\u2019m trying to tell with these portraits are not only her stories, but also the intimacy and the strong relationship we\u2019ve built over time. My story depicts the young Hmong generation attempting to approach modernity within their tradition, who are trying to prevent this situation of early marriage from passing down to their children\u2019s generations. It will take lots of time to see tangible change. But right now, I\u2019m happy to see the younger generation realising the profound consequences of early marriage, and that they are actively taking action for themselves and knocking down doors. And I do believe that a better life will be waiting for them.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0b5b033 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"0b5b033\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-SIlent-Eyes_Conversation2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-5074\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-SIlent-Eyes_Conversation2.jpg 900w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-SIlent-Eyes_Conversation2-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-SIlent-Eyes_Conversation2-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-SIlent-Eyes_Conversation2-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7342f1b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7342f1b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>Chelsea:<\/b>\u00a0How did your relationship with photography begin? What made you decide to pursue photography professionally?\u00a0<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:\u00a0<\/b>Photography came to me very naturally in my 20s. When I was in university, I read many books on the human condition. One of my favourite writers is\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/khaledhosseini.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Khaled Hosseini<\/a>, who is focused on the lives of people on the margins of Afghanistan society.\u00a0<\/p><p>At that time, I usually tried to transform what I read into images, which was how I learned about photography. I started with street photography but soon felt dissatisfied with this genre as it didn\u2019t allow me to build relationships with the people I photographed. My work right now is just the very beginning of my own journey. Working with images is a happy task for me, and I can find happiness in photography no matter the circumstances.<\/p><p><b>Chelsea:<\/b>\u00a0Hannah, what drew you to Nh\u00e0n\u2019s project?<\/p><p><b>Hannah:<\/b>\u00a0I was drawn to Nh\u00e0n\u2019s project because she was asking the same questions I\u2019m also drawn to in my photography. Questions about the human condition, how we as humans survive amidst different conditions, about the kind of perspectives we cast on the people that we are photographing.<\/p><p>She\u2019s working on the very sensitive topic of teen moms. It\u2019s not necessarily a topic that is new in the world of photojournalism. I have also done a story on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/goatsandsoda\/2020\/08\/21\/787921856\/photos-the-hidden-lives-of-teen-moms\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">teen motherhood<\/a>\u00a0[in the Philippines]. But I saw something different in her work. There were a lot more unanswered questions that I was really drawn to exploring together. We walked a lot together through the emotions we\u2019d been feeling about the work, and this kind of topic.<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:\u00a0<\/b>Experiencing feelings in isolation is a part of a photographer\u2019s job. We have to convince ourselves every single day that we are on the right path. It\u2019s not easy to become familiar with these feelings. Finding a community where you can feel a sense of belonging while engaging in your practice is very important. When a relationship grows with a mentor, we not only learn from each other about photography but also about how to protect our mental health, etc. There\u2019s at least one person standing by you with whom you can share your thoughts and worries.<\/p><p><b>Hannah:<\/b>\u00a0Mentorship is about being in an ongoing conversation. It also takes a lot of chemistry; a personality match matters. My mentor\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.erikalarsenphoto.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Erika Larsen<\/a>\u00a0and I speak not just about our practice but also about being people in the world. It\u2019s very enabling to have someone just take your work and your concerns very seriously. My experience inspired me to want to support others with their work too. I\u2019m still finding my footing with teaching and mentorship.<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:\u00a0<\/b>With each conversation, the project was able to move forward. We printed out my photographs to assess the story\u2019s direction. I wanted to convey through my images not only information but also my relationship with the people I photograph. But it was hard to convey intimacy visually, though I feel it in person when I interact with them.<\/p><p>Hannah advised that I\u2019d need to take time to observe my feelings and try to translate them in my own photographic language. Back then, I felt in a rush. Patience has helped me gradually achieve that intimacy in my photography.<\/p><p><b>Chelsea:<\/b>\u00a0Nh\u00e0n, you were looking to do a lot with this project. Aside from taking photographs, you also did audio interviews, and you\u2019re hoping to make a documentary film about the Hmong community. Hannah, many of your projects also use audio and moving images, in addition to still photography, to tell the story. As visual storytellers, how do you decide on the best way to tell the story?\u00a0<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:<\/b>\u00a0<i>Between the Silent Eyes<\/i>\u00a0is my first very first long-term project. I\u2019m still discovering how to tell the story with various techniques and in more compelling ways. Right now, I\u2019m deliberately choosing simple techniques \u2014 a traditional documentary approach with accompanying interviews. With the limited time I have when I\u2019m far from home, I prioritise reading about local culture, experiencing local ways of living, finding between myself and local people, and building relationships with them.<\/p><p><b>Hannah:<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019ve been doing this for longer, and I\u2019ve come to a point in my career where I feel the limitations of a still frame. Also just wanting to explore and remember what it was like when I first had a camera in my hand \u2014 what it was like to feel the awe and the wonder of seeing a moment and having that preserved through a camera. As the years roll on, things change. For me, adding new tools to my toolbox is a good way for me to continue having a sense of exploration when I\u2019m out on the field.\u00a0<\/p><p>It\u2019s important to prioritise building relationships first but at the same time, having more tools sometimes helps deepen that connection. With other mediums such as audio, you\u2019re allowing someone to just continue to talk. These things can be used as tools to hold space for other people. Each storyteller is different, but for me, the decision came when I started to really feel the gaps in what the images were saying. I\u2019m a working photojournalist, so I get to work with a variety of people out in the field, such as writers and audio producers, and I get to see how they work to enable the subjects.<\/p><p><b>Chelsea:\u00a0<\/b>You mentioned earlier that different tools can help you hold space differently for people, and how people react differently if they\u2019re approached by a camera or by someone who\u2019s looking to interview them for a film or through collaborative ways of expression. For both of you, since you deal with such sensitive and intimate stories with vulnerable communities, how do you create that safe space for your subjects or collaborators to share their stories with you?\u00a0<\/p><p><b>Hannah:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s important to be honest and clear from the start, that you are not making promises that this is going to change their lives. That\u2019s one of the biggest things that I\u2019ve had to reckon with since I became a photographer, because I\u2019d thought it would change the world. A single image can\u2019t do that, but it\u2019s part of a bigger process, and contributes to more understanding. For photojournalism assignments, you don\u2019t have the luxury of a long-term project, so you have to learn how to gain people\u2019s trust and answer difficult questions quickly. You don\u2019t have to strategise, it should come naturally.<\/p><p>I\u2019m honest and straightforward about my intentions, whom I\u2019m shooting for, who the audience is, what the risks are, and that there may not be any gains. Also afford your subjects the same dignity you would any other equal, and respect their space, even if it\u2019s a humble one \u2014 remove your shoes, clear your own dishes, etc.<\/p><p>For stories in communities I\u2019m not an insider in, I also make sure I have a trusted local with me as a guide. This doesn\u2019t just apply when you\u2019re outside your own home country. It may apply even with indigenous communities within my own country, for example.<\/p><p><strong>Juliana:\u00a0<\/strong>It\u2019s important we don\u2019t \u201cparachute\u201d into communities we want to document just for the sake of a story or project. In addition, the location you had to access was quite remote. How did you prepare to access it, both logistically and in terms of accessing your subjects?<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:<\/b>\u00a0Safety comes from trust we build over time. When I gain access, and make friends with someone, I really respect that relationship. I love and respect them and don\u2019t want them to come to any harm. I always let them know what I\u2019m doing and why I\u2019ve appeared in their life. I print my images for them so they can see how they\u2019ve been photographed and decide what they like and don\u2019t like. They have the right to share with me their own perspectives on what I\u2019m doing.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1e8576e elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"1e8576e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-Silent-Eyes_Conversation3.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-5075\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-Silent-Eyes_Conversation3.jpg 900w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-Silent-Eyes_Conversation3-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-Silent-Eyes_Conversation3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/glutenfreepleasure.com\/__proxy_domain\/www.objectifs.com.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Between-the-Silent-Eyes_Conversation3-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-068732a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"068732a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>Juliana:\u00a0<\/b>How else do you plan to expand this project?<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:\u00a0<\/b>I see the exhibition at Objectifs as a first step in communicating this body of work to audiences. I\u2019m interested in exploring the photobook as another format to present this work, to reduce the volume of information conveyed and increase the focus on visual language.<\/p><p><b>Audience Member:\u00a0<\/b>How has your photographic practice evolved while working on this long-term project?<\/p><p><b>Nh\u00e0n:<\/b>\u00a0At the beginning of my photography career, I took street photographs and captured quick moments around me. In 2019, I started this project and since then, my photographic approach has changed. Because I care about the people I meet, and I love taking time to build that relationship and earn that trust.<\/p><p>Over the past two years, my photographic approach has changed because what I am trying to do right now is spending time with people I meet, collecting materials from the outside world, and transforming it in a more personal way.<\/p><p>To be honest, I\u2019m still finding my own language of photography and discovering what kind of photography will work for me. But photography is one of my happiest tasks, because it gives me time to understand people, to have this silent space and feel the power of that silence. What I am trying to bring out is the meeting point between myself and the people whom I meet.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c9aaa19 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c9aaa19\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-00de538 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"00de538\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-82c7871 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"82c7871\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Objectifs Documentary Awards 2022 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